no, look, iranians want to get rid of sanctions which have harmed the iranian economy. and one way of doing that, perhaps, is having a smooth negotiator who might help ease sanctions. but easing sanctions by coming to some sort of arrangement with the west does not mean an end to their nuclear program, and that's the supreme interest that we in the united states, all of us in the west have in making sure that this uniquely aggressive regime doesn't get nuclear weapons. so to bamboozle ourselves into thinking that rouhani is a figure who has authority and who will reach a modus vivendi with the united states, i think, is dangerously self-deceptive. and everyone is calling this guy a moderate. you know, there were nazi moderates. there are moderates in any political spectrum. he is a creature of the regime. jenna: jim, your final thoughts on this. >> yeah. i'd love to be able to get some points in here on this. his policy, and he would acknowledge this, repeatedly has called for the bombing of iran, so it's no shock to me that suddenly when there's a chance that there mig